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Miketrix
#1 Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2008 3:57:48 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

I found out GSP last year and the recent improvements made on this application are great.

One thing that could still be of great addition is the support of custom TAGS.

As we speak about GSP, people who really want to manage their medias generally have categories (pictures, video, ...) and store the files using folders, which is great. However, tag support would add one missing dimension to the media management in GSP.

Let's say I manage tons of pictures and icons, my goal is to tag all medias related to "Appels", even if I don't store them in the same folder (as they could come from different image libraries)...

Finally, having a Tag Cloud (configurable) and linking the GSP search engine would help easily finding medias related to a specific term/tag.


What do you think? Is this something already considered for one of the next version of GSP?

Thanks a lot!

Michael.
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Roger Martin
#2 Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2008 7:17:22 AM(UTC)
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This is something I have been wanting to do but haven't thought through how to implement it. The concept has been done many times in other apps so if anyone out there has experience and is willing to offer some time to add this to GSP, we would all be thankful.

Or if you know of any open source code projects that can help with this, let me know.
Roger Martin
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Miketrix
#3 Posted : Thursday, 23 October 2008 4:20:16 AM(UTC)
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Hi Roger,

I appreciate your quick answer.

To start learning about tags (theory), I think there are two interesting links to share:

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_(metadata)
- http://lorelle.wordpress...fference-and-which-one/

Now, instead of posting a thousands of links, I found one that exposes a short but interesting comparison of different tagging systems approaches. The article also links to several other sources which are also good to read:

http://www.pui.ch/phred/...s-database-schemas.html


I just thought this would be a good start. Please let us know (anyone of you) of your interest for this in GSP?

Thanks!
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compugraph
#4 Posted : Thursday, 23 October 2008 9:54:33 AM(UTC)
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Mike,

for the time being I made a more or less quick hack in Rogers Source (currently recoding and reviewing) it, to support all custom XMP tags in every namespace. Currently we read out the whole XMP stream, pushing it in an XML namespace reading only those single nodes we care for.

The MS Implementation of WPF has some bugs when reading additional tags (other than current Galleryserver does) running in a multithreaded environment.

I'd be glad to help you.

Ralf.
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Miketrix
#5 Posted : Friday, 24 October 2008 3:16:55 AM(UTC)
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Hi Ralf,

I never heard about XMP before (sorry I am not really involved in those topics) but it seems to be an extra meta information layer that can work with any type of file.

I'm not sure what is required in order to use that XMP format (should we install their client on the machine?), and I don't know if this is something that Roger is looking into...

Anyway, that's a good remark.

What kind of features did you actually add to GSP using that XMP support?

- can you classify your media with tags? how easy is it to assign tags to an item?
- can you search for tags?
- can you manage your tag lists?
- can you display tag clouds ?
- etc...

Thanks again for your input.

Michael
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compugraph
#6 Posted : Thursday, 30 October 2008 4:11:37 AM(UTC)
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Mike,

with XMP Adobe tried to integrate Asset Metadata in a very scalable and flexible format.

the .net 3.5 wpf classes are capable of Querying and !WRITING! that data (with a few bugs inside), actually GalleryServerPro uses that with .net 3 installed.

With XMP you can use every XMP-aware Application (there are a lot of them) to edit metadata.

For our current project I rewrote Rogers Metadataextraction using the XMP structure to obtain hierarchical data for keywords, different languages and other representation data.
see Picture Archive.

Classifying media is done in a front-end application like all Adobe CreativeSuite applications or, in that case, Adobe Lightroom.

Tag clouds are just another matter of presenting the already existing metadata. Using .net there's a Cloud Control, weights for the tags could be derived from the hierahical keyword representation in Lightroom or any other custom idea.

I'm now waiting for a more robust implementation of the WPF classes from Microsoft allowing to write back changed metadata to the assets.


Ralf
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psammetico
#7 Posted : Sunday, 16 January 2011 3:20:40 PM(UTC)
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Hello Roger,
I think the custom TAG is the only feature missing to GSP, because it should make it a nice document manager.
Is it yet in the roadmap?
Could give us an update?
thanks
P.
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Roger Martin
#8 Posted : Sunday, 16 January 2011 3:32:44 PM(UTC)
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At the moment I am adding a few small features for the 2.4.6 release that I consider low-hanging fruit - not too much work but would be helpful.

I have long wanted to add metadata editing and tag support but I have been waiting for the 2.4 release to get out the door and fully stabilized. We are now just about at that point.

I am considering adding rudimentary support for these two features in 2.4.6, which should be out within a few weeks, but have not yet made a final decision. It comes down to balancing the pros and cons of having a simple version out quickly versus the fully fledged version several months from now.

Regardless of whether a simple implementation makes it into 2.4.6, these two features are a big focus for the next major release of GSP.
Roger Martin
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Miketrix
#9 Posted : Friday, 6 January 2012 12:05:16 PM(UTC)
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Hi Roger,

First of all: Happy New Year! :)

It's been more than 3 years that I posted this thread and although I'm not an active GSP user right now, I was wondering if the TAG management feature was still in your roadmap?

I want to congratulate you for the amazing work you're doing on GSP... it really is a nice and unique project on the web (interestingly, no equivalent open source media management platform exists that I know of) and you're still keeping the community alive many years later... I find that really impressive!

My need/opportunity for using GSP is limited right now, but I'm still looking for a local solution to handle collections of icons and images. Something ideally similar to http://www.iconfinder.com/ that could be used to reference, tag and search 1000's of image collections.

I know this deviates a bit from the current GSP usage, but anyway I wanted to check out on your expectations for the new features to come in the next GSP update. I looked through the 2.6.0 major release, and I didn't find any reference to Tagging support...

Good luck with everything and hope to follow your work for many more years!
Cheers++
Michael
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Roger Martin
#10 Posted : Friday, 6 January 2012 12:28:36 PM(UTC)
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Yes, tagging is in the roadmap - it is planned for 3.0, due later this year. Check out the roadmap.
Roger Martin
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dp4610yz
#11 Posted : Tuesday, 17 January 2012 8:43:01 PM(UTC)
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hmm...is it possible to push 3.0 out soon...cos it looks very promising...
can i do a beta test?
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Roger Martin
#12 Posted : Tuesday, 17 January 2012 9:25:49 PM(UTC)
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Version 3 is a major release and won't be ready until later this year. I'm not sure there will be a beta, but if there is, you'll see it posted here.
Roger Martin
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daveburke
#13 Posted : Wednesday, 18 January 2012 8:48:38 PM(UTC)
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Miketrix;1754 wrote:

One thing that could still be of great addition is the support of custom TAGS.


Hi Miketrix,

A fellow GSP lover and Roger Martin fan here. I thought tags for media albums and objects was a cool idea, too, so I incorporated GSP Tags with my integrated Social Networking app Sueetie. If you're interested in checking out the source, that's available as well.

Here's a wiki document I wrote on the implementation.

Good luck,
Dave
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